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Author Topic: Slime, as a fan of both you and MCP, please rethink the road you are taking.  (Read 6145 times)

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so you are severely limiting exposure to your content by forcing your content to be removed off of multiple sources unless you they pay you.... dude.... this makes you seem like a cash grabber. you yourself said your content is free. why can't you just drop it and let people enjoy your, and many other peoples' content instead of constricting it to the point where it's exclusive only to your website? where is the fun in that? i understand copyright is a sticky situation in itself, but for real. You are an excellent writer and i found your works THROUGH MCP and other narrators. if it weren't for them your audience would be a LOT smaller. I respect you but i am on MCP's side. stop blowing it out of proportion because it will end with each party being hurt. these things always do, you win and MCP can't do any videos, you just upset an entire community, MCP wins, you just look like a jerk. just drop it for the sake of everything you both stand for, exposing people to amazingly scary stories.

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this is what happens when you are drunk and angry because your favorite creepypasta get removed off youtube. I am sorry, i was not in my right mind at the time, i stand completely on slime's side. and i can't delete the post so marked for deletion?

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« Last Edit: 11:24:55 AM 11/30/13 by firemender »

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there's really not much to be said that hasn't already.

you clearly don't understand the situation and have no intention to try to.
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Dude. Fuck off. They made him stop making stories altogether.
I'm tired of you shitheads coming on our forums and harassing slimebeast.
HE OBVIOUSLY WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH MAKING CREEPYPASTA OR MR MCP
Now leave.

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Let me break your current stance down point by point, for simplicity and organization, of course.

so you are severely limiting exposure to your content by forcing your content to be removed off of multiple sources unless you they pay you.... dude.... this makes you seem like a cash grabber.

Slimebeast has not "forced his content off of multiple sources." I have no idea where you got that from. Most of them are still on the wiki(and probably will remain whether he'd want them to or not, but hey, unrelated), I'm sure a lot of them are on creepypasta.com somewhere, and not to mention other more obscure creepysites. He does not care, as far as I can tell, as long as no one's making cash off of his content. This is not because he wants to hog all the dough for himself- if this were the case, he'd be charging you right now just to be on this forum like the jerks over at somethingawful.

If anything Slimebeast is the OPPOSITE of a "cash grabber." He creates FREE CONTENT. FOR YOU. THE CONSUMER. TO ENJOY. FOR ENJOYMENT!!!!

He just wants it to remain ad-free. That's not "forcing content off of sources," it's forcing the ADS off. Anyways. Onward.

you yourself said your content is free. why can't you just drop it and let people enjoy your, and many other peoples' content instead of constricting it to the point where it's exclusive only to your website? where is the fun in that? i understand copyright is a sticky situation in itself, but for real.

Yes, firemender. It is free. Which means no one should be making money off of it. I don't mean to be rude, but what aren't you getting about that? Mo has dropped it. All of it. He's not even posting free stories anymore because of this ordeal and other's like it. And yet, he's still letting us continue to enjoy the ones he's already posted out of the kindness and generosity in his kokoro. He's encouraging us to enjoy it!

And, as stated before, his stuff will probably be immortalized in the wiki, sadly with or without his consent.

i understand copyright is a sticky situation in itself, but for real.

If you really understood copyright and the stickiness of its situation, this would not be a conversation being had right now. Instead we'd all be cozied up in our beds playing Black Ops and drinking cocoa, but here we are, not doing that. Instead we are debating like Grumpy Gus and Irritated Irene.

You are an excellent writer and i found your works THROUGH MCP and other narrators. if it weren't for them your audience would be a LOT smaller.

Nope. Wrong. Just because that's how you found the content, does not mean that's how everyone found the content. You are either lacking a Theory of Mind/Empathy, or you posess too much ego. I'm pretty sure more than half the people on this site are nerds from HR anyway, but that's unrelated and hey, what does ala know?

I digress. If it weren't for the YTNarrators(who, by the way, only narrated like 4 of his 3million gazillion stories), then Slimebeast's audience.... would remain relatively the same. Didn't you read the thing, the hit count only went up that one time and it was for Whimsywood. And it didn't even stick.

I respect you but i am on MCP's side.

Hard to tell, and obviously.

stop blowing it out of proportion because it will end with each party being hurt. these things always do, you win and MCP can't do any videos, you just upset an entire community, MCP wins, you just look like a jerk. just drop it for the sake of everything you both stand for, exposing people to amazingly scary stories.

Ok, one, what are you even saying? Two, what are you even saying? And three, what? MCP has plenty of other writers on his list to make money off of, I'm sure. He's got plenty of other works to choose from, not that that's necessarily a good or bad thing. Aside from that, if MCP were to "win" how would that make Slimebeast look like a jerk? I mean I'm supposed I'm very sided in this war so to speak, but MCP looks pretty lame from all angles.

Also I have no idea what Mo stands for, nor do I claim to, but I'm pretty sure MCP and him stand for at least slightly different things.



And now that that's that, aLa's two cents--

You seem to not understand the situation. I think it may be because you either don't understand how creators feel about their content or you may not have looked at Slimebeast's side very well. Allow me to conjure a scenario to explain:


Imagine you created a thing, maybe a tiny sculpture made of toothpicks or something. You love this sculpture, and are very proud of it. You worked very hard and tirelessly to create this tiny beautiful thing, and now you think you want to share it with the world! Because you are so proud of this small thing, you want anyone who wants to see it to be able too, so you put it on display in your garage for FREE. You may not be making any money off of it for all the time you spent on it, but other people love it, and that's what's important to you.

In fact, so many people start loving it that you get an offer from an art gallery who wants to put it on display! Excited that more people will get to view your sculpture, you agree. You allow your sculpture to be taken to this gallery. However, you visit the gallery yourself one day and discover that the gallery curator is charging people $8 in entry fees to get in to see your little sculpture! This makes you angry; your sculpture was supposed to be free to see!

You talk with the curator, and after some debate, he agrees to take the fee down, and you are content.

However, you go back again in a few more days, and discover that every inch of the walls in the exhibit room for your little sculpture is covered in promotional posters and flyers! It's very distracting!

You go to the curator and ask him to take the advertisements down, but he doesn't want to, because he is getting paid to keep them up! This makes you angry; THIS CURATOR IS GETTING PAID FOR SOMETHING YOU'VE DONE!! This curator, who did virtually nothing, is raking in cash from ad revenue because of something YOU did!

So you smash the sculpture into little pieces and cram them down the curator's throat. Now no one can enjoy your little sculpture that you worked so hard on, and all because this curator decided to be greedy and insist that he make moola off of something you did.



This is merely one example of how putting ads on something that wasn't meant to have them can hurt everyone. I hope you understand now.
« Last Edit: 04:14:39 AM 11/30/13 by aLa »
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this makes you seem like a cash grabber.
Ironic.
you yourself said your content is free. why can't you just drop it and let people enjoy your, and many other peoples' content
He would, if his content had stayed free in the first place.


I'm with Slimebeast on this one 100%.


Disclaimer: I have no authority to speak on this matter and what I write represents no-one's views, or understandings thereof, but my own.
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so you are severely limiting exposure to your content by forcing your content to be removed off of multiple sources unless you they pay you.... dude.... this makes you seem like a cash grabber. you yourself said your content is free. why can't you just drop it and let people enjoy your, and many other peoples' content instead of constricting it to the point where it's exclusive only to your website? where is the fun in that? i understand copyright is a sticky situation in itself, but for real. You are an excellent writer and i found your works THROUGH MCP and other narrators. if it weren't for them your audience would be a LOT smaller. I respect you but i am on MCP's side. stop blowing it out of proportion because it will end with each party being hurt. these things always do, you win and MCP can't do any videos, you just upset an entire community, MCP wins, you just look like a jerk. just drop it for the sake of everything you both stand for, exposing people to amazingly scary stories.

Much love

Firemender.

I don't usually see eye to eye with Slime but I can't fucking believe anybody couldn't see the issue with this.

You're basically asking why a guy would want to be paid for his hard work while another uses it with no effort for profit. What the fuck kind of naive hippie are you? Have you ever worked a day in your life or you still studying for that liberal arts degree? If you really like the guys work why wouldn't you support the original author and not his unofficial publisher.

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holy shit
He made us all mad mo. I'm sorry. Were we to harsh?

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Wait Mo writes horror stories?

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for what its worth I think slimebeast is doing the right thing. these stories are good, and I don't think slimebeast should sit back while other people make money off of his work.
I have no problem listening to salems lot audio book on youtube, even though stephen king may not be getting a share of the revenue I don't feel any guilt because over the years I've bought salems lot at least three times.

But if these youtube faces are going to money from someone else's work without crediting them or giving them a share of the revenue then that person has a right to feel pissed off.
I know I would.

Also maybe this will turn out to be a blessing in disguise if it gives slimebeast the kick up the arse he needs to put out a book, I'd buy something he had written on the strength of his creepy pastas.

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Oh thank FUCK, for a second I thought this was about that feminism/femiNAZI Bullshit..... It's just someone who typed something at 3am. And als o, if anyone mentions that, I will HUNT THEM DOWN. So play nice ;D