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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #30 on: 02:15:35 AM 11/20/13 »
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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #31 on: 11:56:42 AM 11/20/13 »
Looking for a K/R at Redemption Street

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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #32 on: 06:13:16 AM 11/24/13 »
We've got a revive point that people generally seem to agree upn, should we also designate vamping and zombifying points for people as well?

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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #33 on: 02:36:32 PM 11/24/13 »
I think it would be a good idea

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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #34 on: 02:46:23 PM 11/24/13 »
Einherjar won't be enforcing devive points as undead have no trouble with keeping their numbers, and we have no trouble handling those requests internally.
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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #35 on: 04:31:43 AM 11/25/13 »
Einherjar won't be enforcing devive points as undead have no trouble with keeping their numbers, and we have no trouble handling those requests internally.

Well its not an idea for the Einherjar, its for everyone - on a consensus basis.  Just like pretty much everyone's agreed on Redemption Street for reviving without some official declaration being necessary.  Most players know if you see a zed or vamp just standing there on Redemption to K/R them.  I don't see what would be wrong with designating streets or locations for vamping and zedding that EVEN EINHERJAR PLAYERS could direct non-Einherjar players to.

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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #36 on: 04:35:41 AM 11/25/13 »
Well its not an idea for the Einherjar, its for everyone - on a consensus basis.  Just like pretty much everyone's agreed on Redemption Street for reviving without some official declaration being necessary.
False. I set this up and announced it. Just like I set up and announced Bastion Cemetery. Read more.

Most players know if you see a zed or vamp just standing there on Redemption to K/R them.  I don't see what would be wrong with designating streets or locations for vamping and zedding that EVEN EINHERJAR PLAYERS could direct non-Einherjar players to.
Einherjar enforced Bastion Cemetery and now Einherjar and BB are enforcing Redemption Street at my command.

Einherjar will not be enforcing undead devive points. You can do that on your own if you like.
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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #37 on: 05:43:28 AM 11/25/13 »
False. I set this up and announced it. Just like I set up and announced Bastion Cemetery. Read more.
Einherjar enforced Bastion Cemetery and now Einherjar and BB are enforcing Redemption Street at my command.

Einherjar will not be enforcing undead devive points. You can do that on your own if you like.

Dude.

This isn't about you or your fucking Einherjar.  At all.  This game and these forums do not revolve around your little Group.  Get over yourself already you psycho ego-maniac.  Jesus-Fucking-Tits.

Its a GENERAL thing for everyone.  Just like MOST people use the Redemption Street revive point, regardless of which group they're in or who initially suggested it.  As a whole, most people playing the game have come to an unstated agreement that Redemption Street is a good spot for reviving.  Goody on you for suggesting it in the first place.  Would you like a fucking lollipop?

If you want to be a dick and not help other players by telling them where people have decided to set up zombify or vamping points, that's your decision.  But this sure as fuck isn't about you or your god damn Group.    Good God.

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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #38 on: 06:01:25 AM 11/25/13 »
Dude.

This isn't about you or your fucking Einherjar.  At all.  This game and these forums do not revolve around your little Group.  Get over yourself already you psycho ego-maniac.  Jesus-Fucking-Tits.
Calm down bro.

Its a GENERAL thing for everyone.  Just like MOST people use the Redemption Street revive point, regardless of which group they're in or who initially suggested it.  As a whole, most people playing the game have come to an unstated agreement that Redemption Street is a good spot for reviving.  Goody on you for suggesting it in the first place.  Would you like a fucking lollipop?
You tried to say that Redemption Street magically became the revive point for absolutely no reason. No, it did not. That was my hard work. Or do you think coordinating a bunch of strangers that you've barely known for a few weeks and who may or may not take the game seriously is easy?

If I decided that we were changing the revive point to something else, the revive point would move to wherever I said. Just like it did when I said that Bastion Cemetery was dead and the new revive point would be Redemption Street. Why? Because I put work into it. I even sent PMs out to groups before I gave the order to ensure that it was ready. I made sure to keep reminding people and pointing people in the direction of the new revive point so that it stuck. No one was using Redemption Street before my order.

If you want to be a dick and not help other players by telling them where people have decided to set up zombify or vamping points, that's your decision.  But this sure as fuck isn't about you or your god damn Group.    Good God.
I wasn't trying to tell anyone anything. I simply stated that the Einherjar would not be enforcing devive points. That was for your sake if anything, because now you know who not to count on to make your devive points stay busy. Now you know who is and isn't involved. That should make coordination a bit easier.

I wish you good luck.
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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #39 on: 06:22:05 AM 11/25/13 »
You tried to say that Redemption Street magically became the revive point for absolutely no reason.

No I didn't.  Here is exactly what I said.

"We've got a revive point that people generally seem to agree upon, should we also designate vamping and zombifying points for people as well?"

"Just like pretty much everyone's agreed on Redemption Street for reviving without some official declaration being necessary."

Generally seem to agree upon =/= Magically became the revive point

Pretty much everyone agreed =/= Magically became the revive point

Do you really want some sort of credit given your way each time someone talks about revive points for suggesting Redemption Street? 

If I decided that we were changing the revive point to something else, the revive point would move to wherever I said.

That's a pretty self-glorifying, self-righteous statement for you to make.  What makes you think people will just do what you say?  Especially when you come across like a self-centered dick.

Because I put work into it. I even sent PMs out to groups before I gave the order to ensure that it was ready. I made sure to keep reminding people and pointing people in the direction of the new revive point so that it stuck. No one was using Redemption Street before my order.

That's some super hard work there bro... lol

Ever noticed most of the stuff you say is "Me me me, I I I?" while everyone else seems to be making suggestions or doing things they think will  benefit the entire game?  You should try it sometime.


I wasn't trying to tell anyone anything. I simply stated that the Einherjar would not be enforcing devive points.

Nobody's asking you to "enforce them."  "They" don't even exist at this point.  But its pretty sad and pathetic and just goes on to showcase your "Me First! What I want from/for this game is most important!" attitude that you wouldn't even TELL other players where they could find zedding or vamping points.

You keep saying you want to do things that benefit the game in the long run.  Okay.  Wouldn't telling players where they could find these options be a benefit?  Not only would it be beneficial information to pass along that doesn't hurt you in any way, shape or form; but it keeps a steady flow of vamps and zombies coming for your precious Einherjar to kill.  Unless you're aiming for it to be all humans, all the time, with only human players and npc zombies/vamps to kill.  Which sounds pretty damn boring.

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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #40 on: 06:34:32 AM 11/25/13 »
No I didn't.  Here is exactly what I said.

"We've got a revive point that people generally seem to agree upon, should we also designate vamping and zombifying points for people as well?"

"Just like pretty much everyone's agreed on Redemption Street for reviving without some official declaration being necessary."

Generally seem to agree upon =/= Magically became the revive point

Pretty much everyone agreed =/= Magically became the revive point

Do you really want some sort of credit given your way each time someone talks about revive points for suggesting Redemption Street? 
No one agreed on Redemption Street. I didn't suggest Redemption Street. I made the call myself and gave the order to everyone else. I don't want credit for what I've done, but I'm not going to stand for having my efforts undermined. The fact of the matter is that without my active efforts we wouldn't have a revive point.

That's a pretty self-glorifying, self-righteous statement for you to make.  What makes you think people will just do what you say?  Especially when you come across like a self-centered dick.
What makes me think people will do what I say? The fact that they have been for weeks. I can be a complete dick at times and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I lead a group and I do it well.

Ever noticed most of the stuff you say is "Me me me, I I I?" while everyone else seems to be making suggestions or doing things they think will  benefit the entire game?  You should try it sometime.
I use "I" statements when the matter regards myself. If you haven't noticed, I refer mostly to "Einherjar". If you're unaware, "Einherjar" is plural.

Nobody's asking you to "enforce them."  "They" don't even exist at this point.  But its pretty sad and pathetic and just goes on to showcase your "Me First! What I want from/for this game is most important!" attitude that you wouldn't even TELL other players where they could find zedding or vamping points.
If no one stepped up to start coordinating things, none of this would have happened in the first place. If it weren't for Einherjar efforts early on we would still be playing with less than 50 people. Do I want recognition for this? No, not really. I'm only stating these things because you're attacking me.

You keep saying you want to do things that benefit the game in the long run.  Okay.  Wouldn't telling players where they could find these options be a benefit?  Not only would it be beneficial information to pass along that doesn't hurt you in any way, shape or form; but it keeps a steady flow of vamps and zombies coming for your precious Einherjar to kill.  Unless you're aiming for it to be all humans, all the time, with only human players and npc zombies/vamps to kill.  Which sounds pretty damn boring.
The game isn't ready for those kinds of numbers yet. The Einherjar aren't a pro-human group. This is a temporary operation to get the game where it needs to be before we start branching out again. The numbers need to be in the right place before we let our hold go.
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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #41 on: 08:30:37 AM 11/25/13 »
No one agreed on Redemption Street. I didn't suggest Redemption Street. I made the call myself and gave the order to everyone else. I don't want credit for what I've done, but I'm not going to stand for having my efforts undermined. The fact of the matter is that without my active efforts we wouldn't have a revive point.
What makes me think people will do what I say? The fact that they have been for weeks. I can be a complete dick at times and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I lead a group and I do it well.

Its absolutely hilarious that you think you ordered everyone else in the game to do something and they just did it.  You suggested Redemption Street and other people thought it was a good idea.  I've seen more people from outside the Einherjar directing people there than are from the group.  So good job that YOU choose the street.  But you hardly get credit for it being used by everyone else in the game.  Even if you think you should.  That just goes back to the "arrogant ego-manic" issue you have.

If it weren't for Einherjar efforts early on we would still be playing with less than 50 people.

That you actually said and believe that is fucking funny as hell.  Keep feeding that ego, bro.

I've been tooling around in the game since August and The Einjerjar weren't even around (or at least not putting themselves out there) until a month/month and a half ago.  AFTER things started picking up in the game.

Do I want recognition for this? No, not really.

That's not what your previous argument up until this point indicates. 

The game isn't ready for those kinds of numbers yet. The Einherjar aren't a pro-human group. This is a temporary operation to get the game where it needs to be before we start branching out again. The numbers need to be in the right place before we let our hold go.

And what numbers are those?  The numbers I didn't make any statement about whatsoever?  All I said is having vamping and zedding points would help people become vamps and zed easier, thus giving humans a steady flow of PC characters to go after instead of farming NPCs.  What numbers do you think are going to come from that and who the hell do you think you are to make that decision anyways?

Seriously.  What kind of self-centered prick won't even TELL other players where those locations could be found?
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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #42 on: 01:57:20 PM 11/25/13 »
Its absolutely hilarious that you think you ordered everyone else in the game to do something and they just did it.  You suggested Redemption Street and other people thought it was a good idea.  I've seen more people from outside the Einherjar directing people there than are from the group.  So good job that YOU choose the street.  But you hardly get credit for it being used by everyone else in the game.  Even if you think you should.  That just goes back to the "arrogant ego-manic" issue you have.
Oh there's that word again. Yeah, no. I didn't "suggest" anything. I sat down for 5 minutes, looked at the new map areas, and decided that Redemption Street was the new revive point. I then sent a PM out telling group leaders that Redemption Street will be the new revive point. A couple days after that, I told everyone to start using Redemption Street. I even spent the first day of my saying its official to direct revive requests to Redemption Street and inform people that Bastion Cemetery would no longer be enforced.

It's become obvious that you are absolutely clueless.

That you actually said and believe that is fucking funny as hell.  Keep feeding that ego, bro.

I've been tooling around in the game since August and The Einjerjar weren't even around (or at least not putting themselves out there) until a month/month and a half ago.  AFTER things started picking up in the game.

That's not what your previous argument up until this point indicates. 

And what numbers are those?  The numbers I didn't make any statement about whatsoever?  All I said is having vamping and zedding points would help people become vamps and zed easier, thus giving humans a steady flow of PC characters to go after instead of farming NPCs.  What numbers do you think are going to come from that and who the hell do you think you are to make that decision anyways?
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The day I came back there were barely 10 humans, 10 zombies, and there were about 5 vampires. These numbers even dropped as I continued to play. Einherjar took initiative to remedy that and we set up an operation to cradle numbers and keep them relatively balanced so as to not upset the system. We're currently in the process of guaranteeing a good amount of human numbers so that when we do introduce more undead forces, the humans don't get absolutely wiped out like they did on TC.

Einherjar took this same kind of initiative back on TC, but our TC operations failed because the undead numbers were already too strong. We aren't making that same mistake this time, and unless we all just want a repeat of how TC ended, it's best we start looking at things with more understanding.

Seriously.  What kind of self-centered prick won't even TELL other players where those locations could be found?
One that understands this game far better than you do.
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Re: Revive/devive Requests
« Reply #43 on: 02:49:37 PM 11/25/13 »
I think it really is more of a general consensus that redemption street is a good place to have a revive point, just like how begg street was a good place in twilight than the fact that Tyr decided it.
He got the ball rolling I guess? I mean if he said next minute "Redeption street is shit, new revive point is "A Corn Field (483,484)" no-one would listen to him because that's stupid.

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« Reply #44 on: 02:55:32 PM 11/25/13 »
I think it really is more of a general consensus that redemption street is a good place to have a revive point, just like how begg street was a good place in twilight than the fact that Tyr decided it.
He got the ball rolling I guess? I mean if he said next minute "Redeption street is shit, new revive point is "A Corn Field (483,484)" no-one would listen to him because that's stupid.
Wanna bet? I could make Redemption Street the worst place to find a revive just by having my men actively camp it, meanwhile advertising said Corn Field.
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