Is that it?

[First World]

HR has been unreachable for a couple of days.

😕

Erm... No word on its status is there.


Hmm. Ok.

[Kraufen]

Yeah was wondering that to

[Mammon]

At first I thought it was just fucked up since initially none of his sites would load but yeah now I figure it was deliberate.
Although why he didn't at least put up a message like he did for Scroll Wars, I have no idea.

[Slimebeast]

It's not deliberate, no one told me and I didn't check this forum until today. (There's always a sort of idea that I check Hell Rising every day, but I literally never do anymore. It's been years and the whole process was heartbreaking. A lot of work for a small reception and a lot of drama.)

The host updated PHP/MySQL and some shit got deprecated. I assume it's that. I'll look into it.

[Slimebeast]

Yeah, I have no idea what's wrong. It's likely a very extensive problem and the whole game needs to be updated to the new version of PHP - which of course is a fool's errand.

[Mammon]

Ah, yeah, updating PHP would definitely do it.

Even years ago there were tons of deprecation errors that would've been a hassle to get them all but it still worked at the time so it didn't seem necessary to fix them.

Oh well, lol.

[Slimebeast]

I copied the www directory to www_BROKEN and made a new index page explaining it's down, but all the URL does is download a blank mystery file, now. Super fucked. RIPski.

[Kraufen]

Look dude. If you are having trouble with it (not the coding but rather the running of the game) I'm fairly certain there are multiple of us in our discord who would be willing to pool money together to buy it from you fyi.

Anyways, just a thought.

[ReaperEgg]

... 2020 fuckin sucks.

[Slimebeast]

Look dude. If you are having trouble with it (not the coding but rather the running of the game) I'm fairly certain there are multiple of us in our discord who would be willing to pool money together to buy it from you fyi.

Anyways, just a thought.

That's a very sketchy scenario due to multiple people working on it over the years. There are three or four people who contributed slivers of code that I don't even have contact with at all by now. Additionally, I tried to work with someone suggested in the past, but they just disappeared and quit the Discord without a word.

I wouldn't be opposed to any number of options, but the fact remains it's messy, old, deprecated code and shit.

Starting over was the best option for like 10 years now. (You have the original programmer, Mammon, right here... hint hint. Make something that isn't years-old and wrecked by meddling and call it Heck Ascending.)

I don't even know why it suddenly decided to download a file instead of loading the site.

[Mammon]

I'm more concerned about giving out a database full of emails and (potentially) passwords.

But yeah... I was gonna say, instead of trying to keep the past alive you might as well try to make something new.
Although I realize that if anybody who was a fan had the ability and time to do so they probably would have done it already given how dead it's been for years.

[Slimebeast]

Yeah, I mean if anything was moved it'd be without user accounts.

As an aside - I've fallen victim to "make this and we'll all play it" way too many times (DragonSpires clones, Scroll Wars, Hell Rising, Camp Cadaver and more) to go for it again.

[Rusty Buckles]

If that's it, thanks for the ride. Wish all of you the best, and indeed--2020 fuckin' sucks.
RB

[Slimebeast]

If I ever figure out how to make the Hell Rising directory use an older version of PHP, I'll set that up. Until then, nothing I found works.

[Mammon]

Ehh, maybe I'll look at it sometime, if I can find it on my old PC.